It's time to talk about the Ludding times. That's how they talked about it, those who were there, when readying themselves for an insurrection a few years later. The Ludding times of 1811 to 1816, when communities in Nottinghamshire, Lancashire and the West Riding of Yorkshire rose up against the machines. The Ludding times, with all their similarities to our own times. What can we learn from the Luddites? What can we learn from the heft of a hammer and the idea that, as a later revolutionary said, the urge to destroy is also a creative urge?